her daughter rachel joy scott died in the columbine shooting. her son craig witnessed that tragedy and managed to survivor. good morning their, beth. i know the columbine shooting was 13 years ago but i imagine this brings up a whole lot of emotions for your family. >> oh, it did. yesterday was like reliving april 20th, 99 all over again. so much pain with you my first reaction was i was angry. i was very angry that this would happen again, especially to little children, little babies. and just angry that that someone would take out their frustration and their anger and their pain on someone so innocent. >> and you would think that we would have learned the signs by now to look out for in troubled young men and women and sadly at least it appears that that is not the case. >> i heard the family of another columbine family say this just yesterday. that was that the really difficult phase actually begins for those families right now. could you talk to us a little bit about that? >> sure. it's so unreal what they are experiencing now is so unreal.